Wednesday, January 06, 2010

I Call Bullshit!!

The Christian Anti-Defamation League are a bunch of slack bladders who cannot handle criticism or critique of their religion or people within their religion and would like to make it illegal for anyone to criticize or critique them. So they are unAmerican fascists who want to remove your freedom of speech and not only America's freedom of speech but the whole world's as well. Let's just put that out there up front. They are also a bunch of put upon, whiney gasbags who lie to gain sympathy.

Case in point is their recently posted top 10 UnChristian acts for 2009:

10. Pro-life Pastor Reverend Walter Hoye of Oakland, CA was jailed for exercising peaceful, pro-life speech.

Rev. Hoye would approach women entering the clinic and ask "Would you like to know alternatives to this clinic?" women there for - who knows what appointment*? This man broke the law by violating a city ordinance that states protesters must remain 8 feet away from any woman or staffer entering or leaving a clinic. He clearly broke the law, and punishing accordingly is not unchristian. Even Jesus says "I do not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it."

Also, he chose jail time.


*Not every woman walking into a medical clinic is going there for an abortion. I think some zealots forget this. I wonder how many times someone replied with "There's an alternative to PAP smears? really?"

9. Rev. Fred Winters was murdered while preaching in his pulpit in Maryville, Illinois.

Now, I did a quick google on this to find out what happened. The killer was later named as Terry Sedlacek whose lawyer entered a not guilty plea while Sedlacek wanted to plea guilty. I think the lawyer wants to claim lyme disease caused a psychotic episode but that's a guess. There's also allegation that he suffered a head injury when he was 16 that he's never recovered from. What I can say is that there's been no report of an anti-christian motivation for the murder. How is this any more unchristian than any other random shooting? Because the victim was a reverend and it happened in church? That shouldn't render the crime any more or less tragic than anyone else who gets shot in other location for random reasons.

8. HBO’s program "Curb Your Enthusiasm" aired an episode where the main actor urinates on painting of Jesus. When confronted HBO would not apologize.

Although I can see where Christians would get upset by this, because they're not known for their sense of humour, it's not like someone saw a picture of Jesus and pissed on it in anger - it was accidental backsplash. But really the episode is a dig at the ridiculous amount of crying Marys, bleeding Jesuses and appearance on cheese toast, toilet seats, condoms and bruises. You really don't do your religion's credibility much good with these people as your PR team.

7. The overt homosexual participation in Obama's presidential inaugural events by “Bishop” Vickie Eugene Robinson, the Gay Men's Chorus of Washington D. C., and a homosexual marching band.

"We hate gays! Our small brains really can't understand what a gay Bishop is for, and we really hate it when the gays can sing and play music - that's the last straw!" We all know you are an intolerant lot, but your wording is spurious. You make it sound like there was big gay orgy up on the inaugural stage. Some people think loving everyone is the right and proper Christian way. You folks look petty.

6. Police called to East Jessamine Middle School in Lexington, Kentucky to stop 8th graders from praying during their lunch break for a student whose mother was tragically killed.

Try and find a news report of this. Please, because I can't find a single one. Don't you think local news or FOX would be all over this? The only ones bashing on about this story are the christian forums. It took a lot of digging around to find the meat of this story and here's what I found: The kids' prayers were running long and they were going to end up skipping class if they didn't wrap things up or they were praying in groups in the middle of the hallway which, as you could imagine, would cause a bottleneck for those trying to get to their next class. They were told to finish and some kids took umbrage. The police were never called. The principal listened to the complaints and arranged a time for the kids to have a prayer session the next day where they wouldn't disrupt the flow of the school or its students and staff. How completely unchristian indeed.

5. Pro-life activist Jim Pullion was murdered in front of his granddaughter's high school for showing the truth about abortion.

Although I cannot and will not condone this man's shooting as it was completely pointless, I can agree with the murderer that Pullion's protest outside of the high school where he carried signs showing bloodied aborted fetuses also abhorrent behaviour and it absolutely does not belong at a place of education. I still don't see how it's counted as unchristian unless they condemn the shooter (An obviously unhinged dipshit) purely for murder. If so, then please have a bigger list for all murderers. It also assumes all christians are pro-life, which is nonsense.


4. An activist judge ordered a home school mom in New Hampshire to stop home schooling her daughter because the little girl “reflected too strongly” her mother’s Christian faith.

Kids all over the country are home schooled without incident - doesn't that headline just make you want to ask questions? It should!! I read several different accounts of this and every one had me thinking that poor girl was being subjected to a tug-o-war between her parents who disagree on her education..and Daddy's a lawyer. From the Washington Times:

"It has been conveyed [that] the court is reaching into this family's life and plucking the child out of her home," the attorney said, adding the mother had earlier agreed to allow the court to decide the child's educational future. "There have been three counselors for this child and all have recommended public school."

We'd have to know more details. So how about the official details. Interesting. This is a custody case - no wonder the state is involved! I like point 24.:

24. Thus, Mother’s exposure of the child to Christianity is consistent with Father’s past
actions. The Father has changed his mind about religion and now seeks to interfere
with his daughters beliefs. The Court’s assistance in accomplishing this does nothing
more than favor one parent’s religious views with those of the other. The Court
correctly noted “its obligation not to consider the specific tenets of any religious
system unless there is evidence that those tenets have been applied in such a way as
to cause actual harm to the child.” The Court then acknowledges that “[t]he evidence
in this case does not rise to that level . . .” (Order, p7-8) However, absent any other
clear and convincing evidence justifying the Court’s decision, it would appear that the
Court has indeed taken sides with regard to the issue of religion and has preferred one
religious view over another (or the absence of religion). This is impermissible.

So what's happened is Dad is atheist, mom is still Christian and the Judge made a decision that suits both equally. Isn't that what courts are supposed to do?? I think both parents are obnoxious. Item 42 kind of shows Dad is a dink.

But what's this tripe about the "Activist Judge" Lucinda Sadler?? I'm still stumped on that claim. I can't find anything that goes on about the judge being an activist and what exactly she's an activist for. The CDAC wouldn't be trying to fan the flame a bit on that headline, now would they?

3. The Federal Department of Homeland Security issued a report entitled "Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate" that labeled conservative Christians extremists and potential terrorists.

Two words: Christ Camp. Ok that's too easy. Let's have a look at the report. They define rightwing extremism as:

(U) Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration.

That doesn't sound like they're singling all out all Christians. Just the racist, antigovernment ones. Perhaps your definition of "rightwing" is different from theirs. Of course being racist isn't unchristian because the bible says it's ok to keep slaves and even encourages it by providing some rules and regulations for slave ownership.

Let's be honest, if christians cannot accept the fact that they have within their religion those few who use hate, violence and intimidation to further their religious controls then they are naive. I'm grateful the government recognizes and speaks out against them, even if their brethren cannot or will not. Including this item in your list is unchristian and apologetic to the violent deviants who also believe in God.

2. President Obama's appointment of radical anti-Christians like homosexual activist Kevin Jennings as the "safe school czar;" pro-abortion advocate Kathleen Seblius made Secretary of Human and Health Services, and Chai Feldblum, pro-homosexual and anti-religious liberty judge nominated for Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.


This is just crying and having a tantrum. I also think calling each of those people "anti-Christian" defames them and you should watch out before you have to dance with some lawyers. Chai Feldblum has never made anti-religious claims - find one that's not on a christian site, I dare you. The smear campaign against Jennings is wild! Also, no one is out there saying "Woohoo! Abortions are great! Every woman should have one! Go abortions!" they are pro-choice, as in it's the woman's choice over her reproductive health options. Finally, we get it, you hate gays. Tough shit.


1. The Federal Hate Crimes Bill that attacks religious liberty and freedom of speech. For the first time in our history ministers are vulnerable to investigation and prosecution for telling the truth about homosexuality.


If someone punches out a christian and shouts "Die christian!" they'll get a harsher sentence because their crime was motivated by hate. Just like if someone punches out a homosexual and shouts "Die faggot!" So I don't know what they're crying about here. It's about protecting people from hate crimes, not censoring freedom of speech. I think you are still free to shout "Die faggot! or "die christian" so long as you don't assault them or someone doesn't follow your advice and go ahead and kill the person...then that would be incite to violence, wouldn't it? Either way, to call this bill unchristian is pathetic.

The whole list is pathetic. I wonder why they even bothered to put it together knowing that a little bit of research would prove them all to be terribly naughty sinners. Tsk.


6 comments:

jomamma said...

You make my mind run 90mph. You would have made a great teacher... a high school teacher, right at that age when the kids are getting a chance to open their mind and reach out to think on their own. You really have a knack for enlightening.

Dryden said...

I really appreciate this article. I'm glad you spent the time to pull it together using all the sources you have cited and the humor you've incorporated. I don't understand how people can fight in favor of these claims, its truly mind-boggling. These arguments seem completely devoid of reason. Though again, I am one of those homos.

Dingo said...

I think if they are going to list "unChristian acts," they would do very well to start within their own pews. Christians are some of the most unChristian-like people I've ever met, not to mention incapable of logic, reasoning, and telling the truth.

Lyvvie said...

I know, Dingo it's completely unfair. They get a "Get out of sin free!" card by just saying a prayer for forgiveness and poof! They're all good and perfect again with born again morality. While folks like me have to deal with the consequences of our actions and knowing that makes us behave with empathy and morals.

Dryden - Thanks for commenting. There have been a few rebuttals around the internet and they're all worth a look as folks have different/expanded opinions on the points.

Jomamma - I've been told that before and if wasn't for the fact I don't really like other people's kids all that much, I might have considered it. One smart arse and I'd lose my head. I appreciate this is a personal failing.

jomamma said...

Damn Bible thumpers.... their giving the Christians a bad name.

Lyvvie I applaud you for knowing your limits. Believe me there are a lot of teachers out there that have NO business teaching.

jomamma said...

(snap... they're not their, hate when that happens)